kime baldlips :yeah i havnt came with this ring alone yet. i got it so i could use the Estim whilst still being able to play with my cock, without it getting in the way. I have had a handsfree orgasm whilst using the rubber loops though.
I would have wondered, if you could get off with this kind of electrode only. I have purchased this one years ago for my toy boy and he doesn't orgasm with this ring only. I prefer rubber loops to make him cum on a regular basis
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